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McMaster-Carr has some good high temp ceramic adhesives and putties:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#ceramic-adhesives/=c6x7qd


Posted on: 2011/5/6 17:51

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Re: Packard Aero Record

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Quote:

PackardV8 wrote:.....Has there EVER been a Diesel (piston type) aircraft engine in service whatsoever???......

Keith,

The German aircraft industry probably lead the way with production aircraft powered by Diesel engines, here are a couple:

Blom & Voss BV138

Dornier Do18

And specifically an engine - Junkers Jumo 205


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Re: Anything uglier called a Packard?

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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
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Re: Packard Aero Record

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Thank you for posting this 55PackardGuy!

Some of us were not aware of Packard's history of aviation diesel technology.

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It was a 4-stroke diesel. Air induction was thru the same valve as the exhaust. They had clever engineers, even back then!


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From the picture it appears to have only ONE valve per cylinder. An Exh. valve. So that would make it a 2 stroke diesel which means it had a blower too.

I'm wondering if it fired 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9. OR 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8 like a gas radial.


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Re: High temp adhesive

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Put elements back in the ceramic and also repair the type heater switches where the elements are encased in ceramic for short protection. Needs to be high temp, non conductive and strong. The original stuff is white and looks like a ceramic or plaster paste which was poured in, wire embedded into half full groove and stuff hardened around the wire. Other type looks as if it was cast around the element.


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Re: Packard Aero Record

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I'm really surprised about your not knowing about this - don't you have any Packard history books? Sure, it flew extensively and set quite a few endurance records. It was known as the DR-980 and among it's records was an endurance record not broken until 1980 - 84 hours and 33 minutes in flight on 481 gallons of fuel as noted in 55Packaryguy's post above. Robert Neal's "Master Motor Builders" has an entire chapter devoted to it.

The reason the elimination of the ignition system was important wasn't weight, it was that it eliminated interference with radio transmission.


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I can't imagine the electrical ignition of a gas radial engine (even true dual ignition) would weigh anymore than the FI system for the diesel not to mention any weight of a blower if its a 2 stroke diesel. Then there is the enormous extra weight required for internal diesel parts such as crank and rods to take the 16:1 to 20:1 conpression.

Did such an engine ever really fly???? Has there EVER been a Diesel (piston type) aircraft engine in service whatsoever???

Edit: the ONLY advantage i can come up with to run diesel in an aircraft would be weight savings of fuel but only for extremely long flights.


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It is not clear as to what u are trying to fix. Are u tring to fix the broken winding of the resistor or just trying to paste it back down to the ceramic????


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